meritamen:

@ the people who keep tweeting plague about wanting kai/chris on legacies, did y’all collectively forget how he was treated? Plec literally deemed him irredeemable and locked him up in another prison world. What makes y’all think she’ll finally treat his character right?

I imagine now that Bonnie is out of the picture Kai would get the Kol treatment. Be paired with some white girl and then all of a sudden become redeemable. That’s not desirable either, but I’m guessing most of the people tweeting at Plague weren’t big fans of Bonnie or Bonkai so that doesn’t matter to them.

Bonnie’s fate was never doomed like Elena and Caroline’s fate.

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How is Elena and Caroline’s fate worse than Bonnie’s.

Elena always had everyone at her beck and call to do the bidding of saving her from the constant danger and trouble she was put in.  And Bonnie was the one made to suffer in pain due to always being the sacrificial lamb for Elena’s well being and happiness.

Dying to bring Jeremy back for Elena’s sake. Then spending months as a ghost, having to be around her friends who were alive and too clueless to know that she was dead.  Having to watch her father get his throat slit when she was a helpless ghost.  Yet, spending months not of being okay with being dead, because Plec just had to make it so that Bonnie was more concerned about Elena being happy and having fun in the summer.  Because forbid Bonnie actually be allowed to be pissed off and heartbroken about her death. Because it was for Elena and her brother she had to be alright with dying.

Julie Plec had Bonnie kept her own death a secret because she didn’t want to have Elena mourning Bonnie ruin Elena’s mood to go around the summer with Damon.

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This anon’s delusional.

awesome-bamon:

nawcelest:

People keep saying Kat doesn’t want to play Bonnie anymore because of the way Julie plec treated the character but if you actually follow her social medias she seems more annoyed with the Toxic fandom than Julie plec herself. Kat Graham is trying to work on new projects and is working on new projects but some of yall so called fans only seemed to be concerned about her playing Bonnie. She made it clear before Season 8 aired that Season 8 of TVD would be her last and she was moving on. It was around the same time Ian stated the same thing. I honestly feel like if the fandom would support her other work and stop being so toxic that she would be more open to reprising her role as Bonnie Bennett. 

Also I want to point out the fandom that The Vampire Diaries Fandom treated Bonnie like Crap for Years and only from like Season 6 onwards did half of these So called Bonnie fans started to rock with her. Prior to that you guys were calling her a hypocrite, a bitch, mean, annoying, etc. So instead of putting all the blame on Julie plec how about the fandom take some responsibility. If Kat hated the way the Show treated Bonnie she would have left the show around the time Nina did. 

Also to those saying she deserved better if you guys truly thought that you wouldn’t be saying she should have ended up with Kai a Psycho who stabbed her and left her for dead or Enzo someone who was threatening her in Season 5(Or did people forget about that). If you truly wanted better for Bonnie you would want her to end up with someone she can have the possibility to have kids and grow old with. You would also want her to end up with someone who hasn’t threatened her life. Just putting that out there. 

Now with that said I do love more some Klonnie, Bonkai, and Bonlijah. However I ain’t saying she deserved better while shipping her with this people. I live with the truth these people might not be the best for her. 

Julie Plec did have something to do with it. Kat has mentioned in her recent interviews about being sidelined and pushed to the background or hinted on how Bonnie was treated as a token.

And how her new roles gave her a chance to act out different things and explore roles through her acting that Plec was never willing to give to Bonnie. If you play attention to Kat’s interviews she clearly talks about how her doing Bonnie for  8 years influences the roles and characters she seeks out in her post-TVD career.

You’re assuming that because Kat stayed for 8 years that it means she had a happy and carefree time on the show.  When you don’t know what BS she had to put up with behind the scenes.  As some of her mistreatment from the likes of Julie Plec and Caroline Dries was up front to see. Also Kat mentioned how a male director disrespected her, said that she had no talent and was only hired due to her looks. And she used that as a way to drive herself to prove him wrong.

Just because someone is displeased with a job or aspects of a certain job doesn’t mean that they can quit, if they don’t have something else lined up or another guaranteed source of income.  People work everyday with bosses that they don’t like or bosses who treat them badly or work in a place that they aren’t completely happy with. So, really not making a point just because Kat didn’t choose to up and quit,  since everyone just doesn’t up and quit a job the second they aren’t happy with some parts of it.

But, now that Kat has steady roles and is being very busy getting booked she has no plans to going back to working for Julie Plec. Chances are slim to none that she will.

I honestly didn’t have the energy to explain this to OP, so I just blocked them and moved on. I’ve seen this argument so many times I’m just done, how does no one not realize the position Kat is in. She doesn’t get to express her negative opinions of the show in any sense without severe backlash, she’s never had that luxury something OP should have understood if they noticed the way the fandom treated her.

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I feel like Plec is anti witch and werewolf cuz she makes them suffer the most out of the supernatural beings…

I don’t think she hates witches and werewolves just POC’s. They were pretty much the only supernatural creatures with any kind of “diversity” and it’s no accident that they suffer the most. It’s also no accident that on the POC’s out of those two categories actually suffer and are only used as on it devices.

It’s just one of the many ways Plec demonstrates her racism.

Julie absolutely shit all over Klaroline and it’s fans. She didn’t go for Bamon simply because she is racist AF. I hate Damon so never shipped him with anyone, but honestly any fan free from shipping bias could see that true organic writing would have been developing Bamon. It was there, it felt like a natural progression, the actors wanted it, but Bonnie was never going to get a lead romance because the writers are racist. Fans of TVD and TO know that if a new character is black, they will die.

awesome-bamon:

I mean Candice said that K*aroline wasn’t suppose to happen at first. (Heard that putting Caroline with Enzo might have been planned at some point.)  But, that some of KC interactions with any romantic undertones happened due to the attention and buzz that the ship was getting online.

Plec and Carina for sure had certain times where they tried to use the KC fandom to their advantage to hope promote TVD/TO, I’m sure that Plec tweeted about KC twitter trends or whatever buzz that they got online and said just enough to keep them invested.  

Even KC having sex in the forest could have most likely been due to the buzz they got online and JP trying to keep them something as an award for their dedication to their ship.  Just like she right out said that the DE rain kiss was a way to reward that fandom.

For a few seasons when Klaus was on TO and Caroline on TVD, Plec did put KC on the back burner because she had SC to focus on.  While she knew that she could still try to fan bait and fan service with Delena.

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I will always remember the hype whenever she wrote anything for Bonnie–like season 4 with the “dark” storyline, Beremy, and Benzo, and when we finally see it, it was like she was waiting for the praise to come, that we’d finally validate her, but there were no takers. Why? Because, as you said, she made minimal effort.

It was always “what more do you want from me?” and it was like, we told you repeatedly how to treat your only black character better and you refused, and in the end she called us rabid simply because at no point would we validate her for doing essentially nothing.

The funny thing is, she didn’t always respond to Bonnie fans. I made this post  where I found a rabbit hole that transported me back to tumblr in season 3 when she made the infamous Kennett tweet. One of the things I noticed is that in regards to Bonnie, the character and that side of the fandom was greatly ignored until she showed her true colors. People literally boycotted the show until, I’m guessing Plec made Kat step in, and she asked them not to.

In retrospect that’s the last time anyone should have watched TVD because all the red flags were there the moment Klaroline became a thing (which the Twitter response thing is BS, yes they got popular but she perpetuated it on purpose) but we all wanted to support Kat. We wanted better things for her but we also didn’t want her to lose her job and as a result the show went on for 5 more seasons that we continued to hate watch with too much optimism.

Although there is this weird catch 22 with her where she does in fact want validation from Bonnie fans, she wants to be praised by us, and she wants us to stop calling her what she is, racist, but will do anything and everything except what we actually want to get it. She has this entitled mentality that we should be thankful for the scraps she gives up when she full on caters to Elena and Caroline fans. 

There’s always that argument that she treats all her secondary characters like trash to disprove that Plec is racist, but that never quite explains Caroline who is not only a secondary character but less relevant and useful to the plot than Bonnie, or Tyler, or even Matt to small degree. And even with that it doesn’t explain why Bonnie is treated the worst out of all the secondary characters and Tyler makes a close second–the only POCs in the entire cast. It also doesn’t explain why the only witches with agency in the series are white and only the black witches are treated as servants or are put through excruciating amounts of pain.

Plec had a white vision for her show and, in all honesty, I would have rathered she made it and kept us out of it because in it’s current form TVD is worse with “diversity” than it would have been with a completely white cast.

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Low key, if Dinah and Jacques were Bonkai twins separated like in Northern Lights by @albion19, I’d be excited. However, even if they were it’s still something written by Plec so…

This is what I said in another post.  LOL  The only tolerable thing is if they were BonKai babies, not that I would forgive Plec, but still…

Same, although I’d be willing to deal with Parkwood babies especially since Tyler and his entire family was wiped out, but again, Plec, so bringing him back in any capacity wouldn’t be helpful.

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It has to be Kai…Joshua is too old, any love children would have been too old, and honestly no one cares about him unlike Kai.  This boy should have been dead if he was originally part of the coven or was an heretic, but that’s not the case it seems. This no-good, worthless writer of a fool expects us to believe that Kai Parker would reproduce with anyone that’s not Bonnie Sheila Bennett?  The audacity…

I bet the only way Kai was able to is because he was last a heretic, so of course Plague is going to take refuge in this tiny ass wiggle room because she pulled the same stunt with another hybrid (Klaus) even though none of this makes any fucking sense to begin with.  The more that comes out about this, the more nauseous I get.

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I feel like Joshua is too irrelevant to be the daddy. Besides the only reason I can think of that they would even add a parker is to milk Kai’s popularity. Initially I had hope that it might be Bonnie’s but then I remembered who we’re dealing with and I know that will never happen. Can we do that thing they did with the heathers remake and get it cancelled before it even airs?

Your tags got me gagging.  Let’s not speak that evil into existence.

We need to.  But how?  The Originals didn’t even have ratings to brag about, how the hell is this getting greenlit?  We need to find out who Plec is related to in The CW executive management for real.

Just due to the sheer ridiculousness that he’s Kai’s I’m holding out hope that he’s Liv’s and his middle name is Luke because she was gone for a hot minute before she died and if Hope proves anything Plec doesn’t know how long a pregnancy is supposed to last.

Bonnie was a modern day slave. There I said it. She was always expected to help the white people, put herself above the white people and be put in pain or sacrificed for the white people. Like the only one that didn’t disappoint was Caroline in S4 when she killed those 12 witches to save Bonnie and even she turned out to be trash when Enzo died and she chose Stefan over her friend. Even though Stefan had Damon. She went chose Stefan and Bonnie had no one. Care called Abby and that was it.

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Though I think anon is giving Caroline a little too much credit. LOL

Yeah, to skip over things that she did seasons 5-7 like not noticing she was dead along with every one, ignoring her being the anchor song with everyone, Barely doing anything to get Bonnie back and when she was back ignoring her (not just when she had no humanity), and to then skip right over to the wedding as to when she turned trash…waay too much credit.

Although that does remind me of this nonsensical DE post that painted Damon and Elena as Bonnie’s savior in season 5 simply because they were the first told about her death. I wish I could find it to laugh at again.

bonwhynot:

Let’s Hope Julie Plec Breaks Her Own Record…

…and Legacies gets cancelled within three episodes (yes, this ridiculous fool had a show be cancelled by its fourth episode). And might I (pettily) add that she has more cancelled shows (in their first seasons) than shows with a successful run (if you can count TVD and TO) on her roster.

Instead of one of those petitions to save shows, let’s make one to kill it before it starts. Better yet let’s just make a petition for Plec to stop working in general. That would do the world and their TV network a favor because at this point I’m pretty sure she’s lost the CW more money than they’ve made off of her.

meritamen:

I wonder who they’ll cast as the magical negro/martyr for plecs new spin-off. If kat isn’t going along with it and they can’t have Bonnie, I’m assuming plecs writing a black character to use at her disposal

Considering Legacies is the perfect place for her to finally have all white witches, I don’t think there will even be a black witch to be the magic negro. Black people will probably only show up just to add to the body count.