Not only did The Originals whitewash New Orleans but they made it so these literal wealthy Anglo Saxons were the ones who built the city. They aligned with slave owners and forgive me if I don’t care about a bunch of whites especially Klaus “reclaiming” the city. Making black and brown people villains, Mikaelson family literally using black bodies, Hayley made into werewolf princess when it should’ve been Tyler in that leadership role

It’s funny while I will agree that TO is better in terms if quality compared to TVD, it definitely isn’t in the racism department. That was thrown out the window the moment they decided to set the show in NO, one of the few cities in the US that has a majority black population, and 90% of the main cast is white. Like that had to be a conscious decision just like setting TVD in 1864 (it’s the 1500s Italy in the books), Civil War era in the south no less, and completely ignored slavery even going so far as to call Emily Katherine’s handmaiden. Those weren’t happy accidents caused by ignorance, that’s just having a whitewashed view on the world and trying to hide it with “diversity” (and by that I mean the casting a few characters of color and calling it a day without even thinking about how they’re being represented).

And, oh dear lord, the white savior plot with Klaus and Marcel, one of the most poorly thought out storylines of the show, especially when the Mikaelsons started expecting gratitude for granting him a basic human right.

While I wasn’t a fan of how Marcel ran the city, essentially a dictatorship especially when it came to witches and oh, the werewolves–I always likened werewolves to the Native Americans of the show, but TO went as far as to actually banish them to reservations–but I was always more on his side because the issue I’ve always had with Klaus is his entitlement. Marcel worked hard to get what he had and Klaus feelings of entitlement to that because he “saved” him was just peak Plec–like how can she claim to still be this ignorant.

And don’t get me started on Hayley. Weirdly, I would have been alright if the baby was actually Tyler’s–at least then I know he’d get some focus because the writers don’t care about him unless he’s with a white girl. But overall I would have been more interested in exploring the Lockwood, characters we’re actually familiar with, instead of Hayley, rando girl number 3 there just to cause trouble for Tyler. Much like the Bennetts there’s a lot missing from their origin and will continue to be missing because his entire family line was wiped out.

Why I’m Not Big On Klaroline

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You know I realized the reason why I really don’t like Klaroline us not really due to the pairing itself. I have no moral qualms with the abuse of it because it’s literally impossible with any TVD ship and I really don’t like the idea of quantifying abuse. If I hate one ship due to abuse I have to hate them all including my favorite ship, Bonkai, because abuse is abuse, plain and simple it’s terrible in every form and saying one is worse than the other does nothing more than trivialize serious matters because it wasn’t as bad. It’s unfortunate that certain things have to be overlooked, but I do feel that it works better in Kai and Klaus’ case due to their roles as antagonists however I still don’t consider them excuses. 

The reason I don’t like Klaroline is because I now can’t help but think about the role they play in the oppression of Tyler and Bonnie. I used to like Klaroline, hell I even used to like Delena (but that got ruined for a whole slew of other reasons that didn’t even require deeper thought) because I used to be a very casual viewer of TVD, it wasn’t really a show I took that seriously so I pretty much took what ever the spoon fed me until season 5 when as a casual viewer I couldn’t even stomach it and had to stop watching. To this day I still haven’t seen the entirety of that season. But back to my point, now I really don’t like Klaroline because I can’t separate the reason why it’s there to begin with and the characters it screwed over with it’s existence.

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I’m so lukewarm about most non-Bonnie ships, I don’t really think about why I don’t care for any of the other ones. But I think you probably encapsulated why I’m neutral towards KC.

The Tyler thing makes me so sad, he changed so much and became so complex only to be discarded and his final death was so 😒 And I can’t even think about Bonnie’s treatment w/o getting mad and I’ve acknowledged before that great literary criticism could be academically written about it.

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Well when the show is intent on not giving your favorite character a romance storyline you kinda have to look at the other romances because that’s all there is. However when it comes to TVD there isn’t a single relationship I’m passionate about that doesnt involve Bonnie so I feel that’s pretty telling on how bad the others are to begin with, and how much better the show would have been if they had explored just one Bonnie ship (and I don’t count Jeremy or Enzo because they aren’t explored there just there with little to no build up and little to no chemistry).

But its weird I’ve never really disliked a ship that had nothing wrong with it fundamentally like I do Klaroline because there really isn’t that much wrong with, it just represents everything wrong with the show and it’s low regard it holds POC’s. It literally kills two birds with one stone and I don’t think that’s a coincidence. Plec wouldn’t have risked her other characters the way she did Tyler with pairing Klaus with Caroline, even if so they certainly wouldn’t have been made irrelevant the way Tyler.

Think about the previous triangle with Matt, Caroline, and Tyler. For one, it was a he’ll of a lot more mutual due Caroline not actively being in a relationship (she’d broken up with Matt). Two, Tyler isn’t the reason they break up. And 3, after it ends Matt goes on to have several independent storylines towards his development that aren’t off screen. Matt’s irrelevance is cause by him being irrelevant, and yet still made more important than Tyler. Like I pointed out in another post, Matt maybe missing from a lot of episodes, but we aren’t missing key things about him as they all happen on screen, a luxury Bonnie nor Tyler are given.

Anyways my long tangent point is that had the actor been white, because Tyler for all intents and purposes is white, that none of that would have happened. Their value wouldn’t have only been connected to someone else, it would have been independent and been utilized in the show.

(Sidenote: do you ever find it weird that they really didn’t explore werewolf lore while Tyler was on the show. They brought in Hayley and shipped her off to another show to explore the origins instead using a main character from the show who probably has a rich history as well.)

Lol with TVD/Plecverse I always wanna be that meme where it’s like “just say you hate n*ggers and go” bc that is essentially what it conveys without saying as much and it makes me morbidly angry that one of my all time fave ships came from such racist filth.

Honestly, if you switched Michael and Zach’s roles, I really don’t think Tyler would have been sidelined like that. And the only reason Matt was sidelined is bc TVD sucks at portraying nuance; like the way they showed Matt being angry and railing against the supernatural and struggling with juggling his love for his friends with his obvious dislike of what they are falls flat bc the show is so bad at following through, staying consistent, and delivering consequences. Matt should have NEVER forgiven Damon for Vicki, his sister was turned, killed, and essentially buried in ditch and most ppl in his place would be fucking over the guilty party every chance they got. I certainly would if what happened to Vicki happened to my sister. Even if I had to work with said guilty party for whatever reason, I would’ve turned on them first chance I got and THAT is how Matt/Damon should have been done.

But if Zach played Tyler? How much werewolf mythos would we have gotten on TVD? Would Forwood (which was a pretty decent Caro-ship in and of itself) have been so disrespected to prop Kl*roline? And like from what I can tell, wolves on TO essentially have Native American history and seeing that explored/sympathized with from Tyler’s privileged perspective and how much he changed from a douche to a decent person would have been gorgeous. How much more would the witch story lines be explored if we had an actress who looked like book!Bonnie? Would we have had B*mon or Bonkai like…?

So much of why TVD ended up sucking is bc it never really did world-building right. And a lot of that happened bc you’re totally right, they tossed out the POC characters for the white characters and the white ships, and it made the show so bland. Storylines were limited bc all the focus was on vamps and then in later seasons when they tried to branch out with the monsters, it was obvious they weren’t trying. So not only was it not ethnically diverse, it wasn’t freaking plot diverse enough to stay interesting.

Yes to all of this. Tyler was screwed over in a big way. The one thing that Tyler haters hold over him, and “hate” him for is the one thing that I totally agree with. When Caro gave that ultimatum of “his revenge or us” and he chose to go after Klaus, I stood up an applauded. Why?

Cause how could you live your life knowing that it’s in someone else’s hands? Yeah, it was so nice of Klaus to lift his banishment from Mystic Falls and “let” Tyler stay in his hometown😒 Knowing that at any time that could change depending on Klaus’s mood. That’s no way to live a life. That’s not freedom.

And the fact that the writers (Plec) couldn’t/wouldn’t have the character of Tyler express that, OR have the people there understand it just shows that they really don’t know how to write from a marginalized persons POV. So of course it seems like he just took off randomly, or he was so “focused on his revenge”. They made it seem like it was only about Klaus liking Caro and nothing else. Klaus killed Tyler’s last living parent, out of spite. No getting around that (Even if they were broken up) Yeah she was free to do whatever she wanted, but come on. You can’t honestly expect me to believe that if the situation were reversed , people would side with Tyler? No , they wouldn’t.

And that’s not even getting into the indignity of having him be murdered, and no one does a damn thing about it. Just another casualty.

When Caro gave that ultimatum of “his revenge or us” and he chose to go after Klaus, I stood up an applauded.

I did as well and it always baffles me when people try to compare Klaus giving up on his “revenge” to Tyler not letting go. Neither of those experiences are even in the same league. Tyler was enslaved and forced to do things he didn’t want to. When he finally gets free he’s not content at leaving it at that but helps the other hybrids (slaves) break free. Klaus kills all of them and his mother FOR DOING THE RIGHT THING and then is still enslaved in the end. Klaus only lost his free slaves AKA property because that’s what they were to him. How someone compares one of those to the other is beyond me.

Rant Vampire Diaries 4×04

So I’ve been doing some research with Bonnie, Shane and the whole expression magic by rewatching some episodes of Season 4 problem being I have to endure everything else and I didn’t realize how taxing that would be until I watched episode 4 (which is where I started because I didn’t need anything before that). So within the first ten minutes of this episode I found myself so annoyed that I had to write it down just to calm myself down and get through it and within those first ten minutes there were just so many things wrong that I had to share it. 

So one of the first things that set me off is that Stefan learns that Damon and Elena are going to Whitmore to teach her control through Damon. Basic common curtesy is to tell your boyfriend when you’re going out of town before the day of and Elena not only didn’t do that, but also failed to tell him she was going out of town with Damon — the guy she’s had issues staying faithful to him with. That warrants a discussion where they both make a decision together on whether she should go and that semi happens when Stefan confronts her. This is where my second issue starts, not only is she dodging him with excuses, but he’s not allowed to be angry with her due to his guilt of her being turned — he’s not allowed to have valid feelings for respecting her wishes. That pretty much tainted the scene for me when they got all lovey dovey because they didn’t solve anything. This is one of the things I found worse than Elena sleeping with Damon (in his house no less) immediately after breaking up with him because she was essentially cheating on him well before that. 

 The next big issue I had was when Elena was making her excuses for why she needed Damon to help, she cites the flimsiest one for why Caroline can’t help her. She says she’s “too good” at control and has “never struggled” with control which is just plain inaccurate. Not only did Caroline have issues with control in season 2 that resulted in a death (which is a line Elena hadn’t crossed at that point), but she almost killed Matt too, so Caroline was in a position to understand her the most. Add on top of that the fact that Damon has never struggled with control so why the hell does she think he can help? I realize in retrospect that this is all the sire bond, that doesn’t make it any less annoying especially since Stefan, who knows all of this, doesn’t point out the holes her logic. Her head may not be screwed on correctly, but his is. 

So of course, on one of the first episodes I’ve watched in months it has to be an episode where Elena is unnecessarily added to story line she has no business in, and now with a side of Damon. The entire reason they’re at Whitmore is because Bonnie needs to get her Grams’ stuff back from Shane (a year later). Where in that is Elena, let alone Damon, relevant? I mean at this point Bonnie doesn’t even like Damon nor does she even approve of what they’re doing (victimizing people the same way Damon did Caroline). Why, if this was even necessary to begin with, didn’t they go somewhere else more relevant to their own story line? One that makes sense maybe? 

 One that note, Damon has had a creepy moments, but this one takes the cake for me when he’s describing how to choose a victim. Not only does he point out and describe a girl who looks like Caroline, but he describes exactly what he did to her to Elena as instructions as though he was PROUD of that. THANK GOD, Shane interrupted them because I was literally getting sick. And then there’s Elena who’s taking notes on it completely oblivious that that’s exactly what he did to her best friend. It makes when she shames Caroline for sleeping with Damon all the more inconsiderate since she knows the exact inner workings of that relationship. Ugh! 

And to top it all off just plain annoyance at Klaus and Rebekah’s presence because it was like “what are you still doing here?” “Don’t you have more important places to be?”

All that was literally in the first ten minutes (actually 8 but I rounded up). How can so many things be wrong when the episode has barely started and the season? 

Things just get worse from there everything involving Klaus and Rebekah. It was the same song and dance and they were both having temper tantrums however I did find myself on Rebekah’s side since he was being so hypocritical. And Stefan manipulating her and stabbing her in the back although I guess he felt vindicated about that. This entire episode basically was trying to convince me that hunters were the villains and vampire are anti-heroes, but they’re not, The Originals needed to do something heroic to earn such a title. 

 Then there’s the god awful blood and dancing scene with Damon and Elena. This episode highlight one of my fundamental issues with Elena being called compassionate when she’s too complacent for such a title. When they target the blonde girl Elena can’t do it because she sees the girl has a family that care, so she ends up feeding on a guy roofying people at the party. No issue with that, but she nor Damon actually do anything to stop the guy from roofying people. She feeds on him and then sends him on his way to go back to what he was doing. It’s like they were thinking “job done, saved some people” but NO! not only his he going to keep doing that in the future, but later that night. All she did was bruise his neck. It’s like in Season 1 when she finds out Damon is feeding on Caroline, she threatens him once and never does anything to stop him after that. She’s too short sighted to have the title of “most compassionate” that the writers so tried to convince us she was via words other people say. Something like that is a show not tell moment. 

 Anyways the only thing I like this episode that didn’t make me want roll my eyes was Bonnie and unfortunately she was barely in the episode, but had a few key scenes. I especially liked in the scene, before Damon goes full creeper, when they’re in the classroom Bonnie calls Shane cute and it reminded me so much of her in season 1 in the pilot. It was the first time she’d been bubbly in a while. I know Shane turns out to be a total creep in the end, but I appreciated him bringing out that in her.

Rewatching this episode made me remember just how much I despised Damon back then. I was actually perfectly fine with his season 1-3, a little whiny, but manageable, but season 4 turned my like for him into pure hate – he’s half the reason I gave up on season 5 midway through. When I heard the spoiler about him dying at the end of season 5, I couldn’t careless at the time because a) I knew the plot amour he had and b) his presence wasn’t missed by me. He only slightly redeemed himself to me in season 6, but it just went from me despising him to tolerable – I wouldn’t have been sad if he died, but I didn’t want to tear my eyes out everytime he was on my screen.

I honestly would just look at clips, but I need a refresher on the story line around it and reading about it just isn’t cutting it – the plot that season was just too convoluted. I continued on to episode 5 and it was mildly better. Had a lot less of Damon and Elena, but ugh! her whining. I usually don’t harp on female characters for whining because for the most part it a valid feeling to have, but what bothers me so much about it is how much perspective she lacks and the people around her. They’re acting like she’s the first person to go through this–that she’s the first one to have this feelings, and because she’s Elena and just that special, everyone coddles her, even Damon, instead teaching her how to deal with it like Caroline. Of course Caroline was given no such luxury when she was turned and instead had to worry about being killed if she got out of control. 

I think the horribleness of season 5 and the fact that I loved expression Bonnie in this season distracted me from how bad this season was. Anybody who says the first four season of TVD were great is either lying or just forgot the all kinds of awful this season spawned because it’s almost unwatchable. I think season 7 was even better than this.