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in wiki they said emily is katherine’s handmaiden… i’m confused, i thought she was a slave.

November 30, 2018 — Leave a comment

She was but if you notice TVD completely negates slavery in general. If you go back to the 1864 flashbacks it’s not mentioned once, when Alaric is going over the Civil War in class it’s also not mentioned, and when Bonnie was talking about her ancestors from Salem again it’s not mentioned that they were slaves or even free slaves. It also makes no sense that Emily would travel from a free state to a slave one. Plus Damon was a Confederate soldier who left because he “didn’t agree” which was vague af and probably an opportunity to save the implications of that but chose not to because as far as Plec and Williamson were concerned slavery never existed and was a fairy tale.

TVD chose to set it’s show in Civil War era Virginia and completely ignore the context of that which is why Emily ended up being called “handmaiden” even though we knew she was anything but. Just look at how Katherine treated Emily, that’s not how you treated a handmaiden.

In fact, the only time Slavery is acknowledged is in TO with Marcel, but that was just to serve the “white savior” complex and even ignored the context of that from there after. When Marcel talks about his past it stopped being about slavery and about daddy issues to make Klaus seem like a good guy for letting Marcel have basic human rights. Which is very telling to Plec’s mindset.

damon choose to go after caroline over bonnie because he’s a coward and he wanted a sex toy. bonnie is a witch, she can’t be compell. his explanations are bullshit. there thousand guy like him going after insecure or disable women and taking advantage of them. like his relationship with andy wasn’t useful but he liked to take away her free will.

November 28, 2018 — Leave a comment

Look I’m not denying Damon is a sexual predator, but narratively it makes absolutely no sense. Rapist don’t make sense but stories do. Him being a rapist makes no sense because it served no purpose to the plot or the character motives the writers established. And because his behavior is never framed correctly doesn’t even serve as an allusion to sexual assault–it’s just there and it’s random. Meaning it’s gratuitous.

Him not being able to compel Bonnie doesn’t really even factor in because that’s not his only form of manipulation. As I said in the “Damon has always been Random” post he had an in with Bonnie through Emily that due to the fact that they did nothing with it is also random.

You can explain it with the logic of real life but it doesn’t apply because the logic of real life aren’t applied in the series. In its current form just contributes to rape culture due to the way it’s ignored and framed as though it’s alright–that’s pretty much the only way it applies to real life logic.

We can discern certain things about his personality due what we see the same way we discern certain things about but Bonnie but the fact of the fact of the matter neither of these characters are well developed. Bonnie due to the lack of development and what is shown, Damon due to inconsistency.

Also they kept making him worse and worse and kept trying to frame it as “redemption” but the fact of the matter is what we see is the only characterization we have to go. Like trying to say Elena is compassionate doesn’t really work due to her never really showing these traits. So yes he is those things, but he’s also a bunch of others that you can’t make heads or tails of so the only consistent thing is abuser and rapist.

November 28, 2018 — Leave a comment

mayyoualways:

It’s pretty much Meredith’s fault that Elena is a vampire. Will there be backlash?

Torrey: Here’s what I’ve been saying, and I really do stand by this: I think Meredith should be getting praised for this! People don’t realize there would be no more Vampire Diaries if Meredith hadn’t saved Elena’s life. She’d be dead! I think we should all acknowledge that.

Speaking of Julie, she recently said Meredith would be a “stabilizing force” for Damon this season. Can you elaborate?

Torrey: I think you’ll see a bond grow between Damon and Meredith. It’s cool because he’s this erratic character, and she really holds her ground with him and with all the other characters. She’s strong-minded and doesn’t put up with his bulls**t. So deep down, whether he acknowledges it or not, he admires that about her. That’s how their friendship begins, really. x

Second, what does “Doesn’t put up with his bullshit” mean in the Plec/Dries era? Nothing! It doesn’t mean anything! Alaric was friends with Damon for about a year, and Damon killed the man one month before he died. Why? Because Ric was getting on his nerves! That’s it! Ric was saying shit he didn’t like so he snapped his neck. Damon doesn’t change. He stay at square one. To Julie, it’s more important for Damon to stay Damon and be problematic and all of that. When you get in Damon’s orbit, you get over yourself, he doesn’t get over himself. What’s “doesn’t put up with his bullshit?” He does something, you say something, and it goes over his head 2 episodes later? Stop. Damon doesn’t change or conform for anybody, he does what he wants. He used to act right back in season 1/early season 2 with depending on who was talking to him (Bonnie), but JP/Dries are in charge now and they think Damon being an ass is cute and entertaining.

Alaric, a man Meredith had only known for like three weeks, show-time, told her that he killed her cousin, and she said, “Ain’t no thang. I got no opinion on this stuff.” So I don’t know how she’s not going to put up with Damon’s shit. Not putting up with Damon’s shit is lip-service, because the show portrays something different. Let’s not act like people not putting up with Damon’s bullshit is even a thing anymore. Everyone puts up with his bullshit because he still feels free to act out with no regard about what anyone will think.

Imma need Meredith to be as relevant as Ric was before Matt Davis defended JP on Twitter and she let that direct her writing.

EDIT: Hold on. My eyes glazed over the introduction of the article, so I missed this:

With her boyfriend gone, and her purpose in Mystic Falls seemingly fulfilled, many fans are wondering WTF Meredith (Torrey DeVitto) will be up to on The Vampire Diaries this season.

With her boyfriend gone, and her purpose in Mystic Falls seemingly fulfilled,

Help me. What was Meredith’s purpose?

Meredith was a doctor in Mystic Falls, a place where many people are sent to the hospital if they’re lucky, and people were worried about what her place would be because she doesn’t have a boyfriend?

This is what I mean h6 ships are currency. While I won’t say Meredith was the most relevant character she had a role that was about as important as the sheriff’s and the fandom couldn’t even see that.

Hopefully Kat won’t be in that situation again and just focuses on acting in roles she enjoys. And I I hope people quit asking her about appearing in legacies especially when you look at how Bonnie was treated in tvd

November 28, 2018 — Leave a comment

Seriously, people need to let TVD go and let Legacies die. It was not a great series because all it’s doing is continuing the legacy of sexism, racism, and misogynor.

November 21, 2018 — Leave a comment

Heretic Beau

The treatment of this character is probably one of the most overlooked and I understand why. A) he was a heretic, something everyone always saw as knock off Originals. B) he was in season 7 and by that point most people done with Plec’s racist bullshit had stopped watching the show. And C) No one really remembers him probably because he had absolutely no lines, you’d think they would at least have him use sign language, but naw–I’ll get into that later.

I remember him, and I remember being very uncomfortable with what they did to his character and not realizing exactly why beyond the fact that the only black Heretic is also mute and it’s completely gratuitous. After analyzing my thoughts more I realized it’s so much more.

For me the only really memorable heretics were Nora and Mary Louise, and Valerie. The reason for this is because a) a lot of screen time was given to them, b) they’re the only ones that made it past one episode and c) a lot of development was given to these characters. Then I remember Beau, he was one of those three things, and trust me it wasn’t screentime or development. He’s in more than one episode, but why isn’t he given the same treatment as the other heretics? Surely he holds the same exact importance as the others, but he isn’t and I think we all know why.

So a lot bothered me about how this character was written. First he’s the only black heretic which isn’t what bothers, what bothers me is there’s no context for this character. There’s lots of context for what Nora and Mary Louise went through as lesbians in the 19th century, but absolutely none for Beau. Lily, a white woman from the Confederate south meets Beau, a black man who can suck the life out of her quite literally, imma needs some backstory on him. They already had the “white savior” thing going, but I would have loved to know what his struggles were back then–his were a lot worse than Mary Louise and Nora (and I’m not arguing about that so don’t @ me)

Then there’s the fact that he’s mute. The only black one in the bunch literally has no voice, he has no say in anything, but what’s worse is that being mute doesn’t automatically make someone non-communative, that’s just what they did to his character. He rarely voices his opinions in any sense someone else is always doing it for him. There’s also how he lost his voice. The only reason we get this information is because Lily laments about missing his singing voice. He doesn’t get to voice or express any of his pain at losing his voice, it’s Lily, the white woman he’s been essentially an indentured servant for who does–it’s her pain that’s focused on (sound familiar). I seriously could not make this shit up.

But the thing that gets me most is that he is the only one treated as a slave to Lily and it’s all under the mask of “loyalty” which is the most reoccurring theme when it comes to black witches on this show. Bonnie “loyal” to the Elena, Emily “loyal” Katherine, Greta “loyal” to Klaus, Ayanna “loyal” to Esther, and the list goes on and on. Beau seems to be the only one who has to be “loyal”. All the other heretics love and respect Lily, but everyone has rebelled in some capacity, all except Beau. He does everything she says, never questions it, and is honestly the only one ordered to do things. The only other one who gets ordered to do something is Oscar, the only other minority heretic, but at least got to rebel, and choose his own path.

Beau honestly reminded me of Harper from season 1 which I know most of you don’t remember, he was the first tomb vampire to be introduced. He black and the only other thing known about him is that he “died” in the war as a soldier. Again due to TVD’s complete negation of slavery we’re missing context, and he’s the only tomb vampire loyal to Pearl. The only difference is a) he has a voice, b) he has opinions, and c) he isn’t forced to act outside of his own self-interest which are all pretty significant differences BUT why is there such a low bar when it comes to black characters?

Even with that small amount of agency, he, like Beau, ends up dead and forgotten. With as much as Lily stressed that they were a “family” or becomes inherently clear that Beau isn’t apart of it. He isn’t afforded the same amount of care as the other. No character of color is.

I’m lowkey happy people are finally seeing that Nina isn’t as nice as everyone makes out. She’s done some shady stuff in the past but the tvd fandom constantly defend her from the smallest amount of criticism like she’s a child

November 17, 2018 — Leave a comment

I honestly think people have a hard time separating fiction from real life and these reactions are based mostly on the show because they literally act like Nina is Elena, Ian is Damon, and Kat is Bonnie, but even without the show for context that’s no excuse for the way they treat Kat. It also doesn’t excuse their own internal racism because Plec may have framed as though it was okay (which it never was) but that was all it took for them to come out–she didn’t create their racist mindset she just nurtured it.

As for Nina, I never really paid attention to her but now that I’ve had a glimpse, I don’t understand why people keep on defending her. She’s a mediocre actress, petty, manipulative, and if the kind of company she keeps is any indicator, she’s problematic af. She’s not worth the fight.

November 8, 2018 — Leave a comment

Unnecessary Drama TVD 2×17 Review

I guess this could be the title of the show, but feel this is especially true with this episode because right from the jump things are dramatic and I don’t understand why starting with Jenna.  

Okay so since I haven’t been watching this consistently so I might have missed some context clues but rage and betrayal???? Rage and betrayal about what Jenna? Like, I understand being mad that they kept it from her but other than that am I missing something for this dramatic reaction to Isobel just saying hi. Have they been lying about something she knows about now to build up to this point, but even if so I don’t understand this dramatic reaction. Fundamentally I know why she’s being like this, the writers needed an excuse to send Jenna away. However with in the context of the plot it makes absolutely no sense and makes her seem childish in ways she’s not supposed to.   

And Elena, I guess I should be proud since she’s never seemed more like a teenager than now, but blaming John for this. What even logic? Does she remember the argument she had a few episodes ago with Stefan about getting Isobel and they ended up with John TO GET TO ISOBEL. Looks like you’re boyfriend’s plan worked. Now I’m not advocating that she be mad at Stefan but you want to be irrationally mad why not direct it at the right person. All John has done since getting to town is protect his daughter which frustrated me whenever she’d tell him “not after everything you’ve done” WHAT HAS HE DONE? Someone sincerely answer that question because I’m drawing a blank. It’s crap like this that fuels the mentality this fandom has of “you’re mean to my favorite character so your a bad person” because if Elena, the character the writers are so keen on me caring about, does this why would the fandom be better. So he tried to kill Stefan and Damon, his logic of protecting Elena still stands since they haven’t really done anything worthy of “I’m different” in terms of vampires. 

Also, you know the more I rewatch this the more and more sympathetic I am towards John, and he seems more and more sincere. While I didn’t hate him in my first watch I was always suspicious of him and that’s because the characters of the show build this suspicion around him. Now knowing his endgame as a character I don’t buy into this suspicion anymore because he has always been honest and sincere about his motives as character and they never involve harming other people. He spent his who existence on making sure his daughter had a good life, he wasn’t about to let two vampires she “loved” ruin that. Granted not all teenagers are clueless and not all adults are always right, but in this instance teenage girl is clueless and needs to listen to the actual adults. 

I’ve never really realized how little I care about Alaric and Jenna as a couple until episodes like these. He really never seems like he cares about her that much until he’s about to lose her which is a red flag in my book. And I guess that makes sense since there was really nothing to hold the ship together, it was just “you’re attractive” and “you’re attractive” and nothing went beyond that. They never had a deep connection and it shows in moments like these where he doesn’t care about her unless he’s about to lose her. 

Ford product placement. I know I sound like the CinemaSins guy but they are really not subtle about this. It doesn’t actually surprise me much since when I used to watch it weekly back in the day I remember them doing this often especially with songs but it was always with the car. Before it was Bonnie’s Prius other than that I don’t remember what the car was I just remember “hey this is a great song” and then the network notified you what the song was playing. Product Placement! With this episode in particular it really bothered me with how they shot it because it pans to the rear of the car, shows the license plate, then like shows her in the car, and they make it seem really eerie like she’s about to get run into, or someone is watching her but neither are happening it’s just Ford product placement. It was like, thank you for this unnecessary scene and this unnecessary shot to please your sponsors.  

For all of Carol Lockwood’s failings I’ll give her this: she notices when her kid is it’s missing which is more than I can say for most of the adult characters here. Did Jenna really even notice when they sent Jeremy away? I don’t recall the Sheriff being all that interested in where Caroline was for those days she was with Damon? I guess she wasn’t gone because they hid out at her place but seriously how didn’t she notice anything going on with her daughter then? And Jenna literally ups and leaves when she feels like it.  It’s what made her death actually sad—her love for her son which I’m glad for since TVD does such a bad job with familial bonds, but she is the only character besides John to seem like an actual parent. 

I still don’t understand why Jeremy is there. Like I always knew he was third wheeling it on their plans every time I guess it was nice it was always about Bonnie but other than that I was like, dude you have no function, what are you doing here? I mean I guess Damon doesn’t really need to be there, actually no, scratch that, he was needed to find the place and then after that he leaves which is what Jeremy should have of done.  

Which idiot hid the moonstone? I bet it was Damon, but I don’t understand why he has it when Lucy gave it to Bonnie. Like I said I haven’t been watching consistent enough, the episode this occurs I watched over a year ago but I don’t remember Bonnie giving Damon or any Salvatore the moonstone. And can we talk about how lame the name is “moonstone” it gets more and more ridiculous the more everyone says it. It sounds like something written by a child. But serious I get he was going for “in plain sight” but the bathroom which is frequented by many people including one you let in who you don’t trust. Y’all shoulda left that with Bonnie who could at least seal it in a place with magic.   

Why are Bonnie and the Bennett’s the only one to be put through pain, like they’re the only ones to have horrific deaths, and even worse, why do her ancestors insist on putting her through more pain?  

I thought it couldn’t get more cringe worthy than when Damon was essentially reciting his lines earlier about trying to save Emily, but dear lord Matt. He doe not do anger well, he looks like someone told him, now, be mad, and gave the director the best he could muster up which isn’t great. But he did better with the deception, even though I knew where it was going I doubted myself for a moment and thought maybe he was sincere. And his conversation about Caroiline with her mother saying “I think she died” while was actually very touching also just reminded me of the many times Bonnie died and it’s never confronted but Caroline, who I’ve noted on many occasions is barely relevant to the plot, has this confronted multiple times and she only died once. Just saying–this blatant favoritism toward Caroline that tends to always result in Bonnie being treated less than human gets on my nerves so much I can’t even enjoy what would otherwise be a great scene.    

I’ve seen a weird amount of hate for Isobel which I find weird. Not because she’s a good character or anything, but because of how much of a blimp she is on anyone’s radar. Even her actions compared to the others are so small. There could have been a nuance to her character and to a degree it’s there because her motives were clearly protect Elena, but beyond that she was always kind of lackluster. Also added with Nina’s acting, or lack there of, when she dies in front of her just makes me even more confused as to why anyone cared enough to hate her. Even when Elena is saying she’s sad I can barely believe it because well Nina doesn’t sound sad when she’s saying those line, she just sounds like she always does which is why always found it hard to empathize with her in the beginning of the show. The only reason I knew she was sad about her parent death was because she said it, there was nothing that really emoted this feeling. If she can barely muster up feelings of grief how am I supposed to even sympathize about it. That just distanced me from feeling like they were real people that were in her life, and just made them random fictional characters to add a tragic backstory. It’s really no wonder why I never really cared about Elena from the start.

“If you use to much power you die,” how doesn’t anyone else already know this? That’s literally what killed her Grams which brings me to Bonnie, she always knew this, saw it happen, but why is she so keen repeating history. If she truly believes her powers are meant for more then she should probably know that they were meant for more than saving Elena’s life. But of course this is The Elena Diaries so that’s never going to happen. Instead we’re going to have Bonnie’s mother risk her life and leave her daughter all to protect Elena, because that makes a lick of sense. 

Bonnie their secret weapon, nothing has ever been more cringe worthy. Seriously watching Damon and Stefan discuss Bonnie like she’s an object they possess has never sat well with me. This is again one of those moments where I can’t get on board with Stefan as a character because he isn’t better, he’s just better than Damon and in this moment he’s proving to be the exact same as Damon if not worse because he’s the first to note this–he was the one to look back at the situation and point her out as their object leading the conversation there.

Klaus in Alaric’s body, you know I always felt he did possession bad especially in season 3, he just seemed like a creep and not in the way he was supposed to, but here he did an exceptional job. I almost wish Joseph Morgan had taken more cues from his portrayal because he managed to get the “ancient being” in his voice and mannerisms better. It’s like with JM they just told him “be British and use Shakespearean English” and called it a day. I’m not saying I didn’t like JM version of Klaus, but it’s clear where they started going wrong with this character. With the way Alaric is portraying him he is the most intimidating he’s ever been and that’s because everything built around him is actually living up to the hype. The show later just paints him as a whiny man with daddy issues and no real goals because trust me his plans get ridiculous after that and they dropped pretty much everything about Klaus from season 2. I probably would have enjoyed Klaus more if he had stayed this version, or at the very least did something worth while because I think we can all agree that the hybrid subplot was just a complete mess and pretty much marks when Plec took over as show runner because she has never been able to see the full picture. She just writes as she goes and hopes they connect at some point. psss, they never do.

Overall the episode was frustrating, but every episode is which is why I have to have at least two drinks before watching. Which I honestly don’t know why I do. I got drunk for the finale and that didn’t make anything seem even the slightest bet better, so why would it now. However in my defense, the finale is a complete incomprehensible mess so nothing was going to make it better in the first place.

That’s what I mean sometimes I’ll see an interview and she seems so basic and then she’ll light up and it just feels like an act. Like the cute school girl think gets boring once you’re thirty tbh. But again I don’t understand hard core support for someone who doesn’t act like they give a fuck

November 7, 2018 — Leave a comment

I don’t understand it and I do at the same time. She has hardcore support for pretty much the same reason Ian does and that’s because of The Vampire Diaries and the hype the show gave both of the characters they portrayed.

Julie kept calling them “passionate” but let’s call a spade a spade, they were bat shit crazy. A good portion of her fan base is just Delena fans, which is a fandom known for being loud which is why she uses them when she needs to promote something. DE has one of the most toxic fans I’ve ever seen, but she doesn’t denounce them, at least the way Ian did, because she knows that they can come in handy sometime and will never go anywhere.

It’s also worth noting that she can’t denounce them the way Ian did. As a male he does have an advantage here where he won’t get completely trashed by the fandom and his career if he does where Nina won’t. So that is a factor in that but either way she does have control still by ignoring them, which she does, often.

Essentially her bat shit crazy fans are the left overs from TVD and the worst of them which is why she and the other cast members have several people at their defense when something negative is said about them. Kat has no such luck.

However that’s also because of the kinds of insults that’ll get sent your way for defending Kat which are usually racially charged and I don’t blame anyone for not wanting to deal with that kind of bullshit. Defending the other cast members the worst thing that gets thrown around is being called an idiot by someone who’s clearly illiterate.

I’ve always found Nina to have a very manufactured image. She always seems very vapid tbh. But her fans salivate over her and correct me if I’m wrong but she doesn’t see to really given a shit. Like I don’t remember her going to conventions or acknowledging her fans or tvd fans much. But maybe that’s just me.

November 6, 2018 — Leave a comment

So like I said I don’t pay that much attention to the individual cast members, the most I pay attention to is Kat and that’s just because I want her to succeed out of spite due all the shit she went through on TVD and the fandom.

Nina, aside from a few interviews here and there that I’ve seen and I watched one Paley fest panel with all of the cast, I haven’t seen much of her irl persona. The one thing I only noticed us that she was almost as bland as her character, like there wasn’t much to her, nothing really about her personality to attach to. She was just there, you could have replaced her with any other pretty brunette and it would yield the same results (which is incidentally how I feel about Elena minus the hair color since that obviously didn’t matter in casting). Like Candice, who isn’t even all that interesting either, has more of a distinct personality that one can attach to.

So I get what you mean by manufactured because she seems like someone who’s just trying to be as neutral as possible and the few moments she “lights up” it seems fake. But I don’t think she liked TVD or the fandom, just liked the attention they brought because as you said, she doesn’t acknowledge them and when she does it’s just to promote something new she’s in. I honestly don’t understand why she still has such passionate fans, she clearly doesn’t care about them, and going by Bo Burnham’s philosophy, she’s not still entertaining them so why are they sticking to her through thick and thin?

Although I remember about a year ago I found a post on this forum that gave me a little more insight to her.

Nina was a heavy smoker. She would smoke a few packs a day and would always smell like an ash tray when she came back in. She is very tiny and the camera added weight onto her but she is stick thin.

So after reading that she sounded like she was stressed the fuck out about something. I don’t know if she’s still that stressed out but I do know that now she actually looks stick thin on camera so that does not bode well.

👏🏼👏🏼 that’s what I mean. You cannot say anything other than praise and adoration for the rest of the cast because fans will attack you and start dumb hashtags in support of them. But that same energy is not kept for Kat, when she gets hate they ignore it and when she claps back or blocks people she’s the one that’s immature and unprofessional. And like you said they see her as undeserving of any success because she shouldn’t even be there in the first place.

November 6, 2018 — Leave a comment

Pretty much throw the whole fandom away honestly.