mjgchick:

I’d love a spin off of Katherine and Emily’s time together. Katherine didn’t treat her like she was beneath her which is weird since y’all know how times were back then. I’m not sure even Kat would’ve been invited to the Salvamatores. She looks Puerto Rican. lol

Did we watch the same show? Emily was literally her slave. Made her do things because Emily “owed” her. I don’t care how you spin it, that’s not equal, that’s just the “happy slave” trope where “slavery is not that bad, look how happy they are.” Take off whatever white tinted glasses you have because trust me Katherine treated her like she was beneath her that’s why the last thing she did before fleeing was turn her in as a witch and got her burned at the stake. Emily defied her orders and Katherine felt she was owed retribution for that–it doesn’t get anymore beneath her than that.

Julie absolutely shit all over Klaroline and it’s fans. She didn’t go for Bamon simply because she is racist AF. I hate Damon so never shipped him with anyone, but honestly any fan free from shipping bias could see that true organic writing would have been developing Bamon. It was there, it felt like a natural progression, the actors wanted it, but Bonnie was never going to get a lead romance because the writers are racist. Fans of TVD and TO know that if a new character is black, they will die.

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I mean Candice said that K*aroline wasn’t suppose to happen at first. (Heard that putting Caroline with Enzo might have been planned at some point.)  But, that some of KC interactions with any romantic undertones happened due to the attention and buzz that the ship was getting online.

Plec and Carina for sure had certain times where they tried to use the KC fandom to their advantage to hope promote TVD/TO, I’m sure that Plec tweeted about KC twitter trends or whatever buzz that they got online and said just enough to keep them invested.  

Even KC having sex in the forest could have most likely been due to the buzz they got online and JP trying to keep them something as an award for their dedication to their ship.  Just like she right out said that the DE rain kiss was a way to reward that fandom.

For a few seasons when Klaus was on TO and Caroline on TVD, Plec did put KC on the back burner because she had SC to focus on.  While she knew that she could still try to fan bait and fan service with Delena.

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I will always remember the hype whenever she wrote anything for Bonnie–like season 4 with the “dark” storyline, Beremy, and Benzo, and when we finally see it, it was like she was waiting for the praise to come, that we’d finally validate her, but there were no takers. Why? Because, as you said, she made minimal effort.

It was always “what more do you want from me?” and it was like, we told you repeatedly how to treat your only black character better and you refused, and in the end she called us rabid simply because at no point would we validate her for doing essentially nothing.

The funny thing is, she didn’t always respond to Bonnie fans. I made this post  where I found a rabbit hole that transported me back to tumblr in season 3 when she made the infamous Kennett tweet. One of the things I noticed is that in regards to Bonnie, the character and that side of the fandom was greatly ignored until she showed her true colors. People literally boycotted the show until, I’m guessing Plec made Kat step in, and she asked them not to.

In retrospect that’s the last time anyone should have watched TVD because all the red flags were there the moment Klaroline became a thing (which the Twitter response thing is BS, yes they got popular but she perpetuated it on purpose) but we all wanted to support Kat. We wanted better things for her but we also didn’t want her to lose her job and as a result the show went on for 5 more seasons that we continued to hate watch with too much optimism.

Although there is this weird catch 22 with her where she does in fact want validation from Bonnie fans, she wants to be praised by us, and she wants us to stop calling her what she is, racist, but will do anything and everything except what we actually want to get it. She has this entitled mentality that we should be thankful for the scraps she gives up when she full on caters to Elena and Caroline fans. 

There’s always that argument that she treats all her secondary characters like trash to disprove that Plec is racist, but that never quite explains Caroline who is not only a secondary character but less relevant and useful to the plot than Bonnie, or Tyler, or even Matt to small degree. And even with that it doesn’t explain why Bonnie is treated the worst out of all the secondary characters and Tyler makes a close second–the only POCs in the entire cast. It also doesn’t explain why the only witches with agency in the series are white and only the black witches are treated as servants or are put through excruciating amounts of pain.

Plec had a white vision for her show and, in all honesty, I would have rathered she made it and kept us out of it because in it’s current form TVD is worse with “diversity” than it would have been with a completely white cast.

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wasabicakes:

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Seriously though, when did Damon and Ian become the bloody lead of the show?! Why did season 7 revolve around him? Why did Nina get reduced to a love interest in her own final season? Why are they doing season one flashbacks from Damon’s point of view almost as if to make it about Delena and disrespect Stelena and Kevin even more when Stefan is the narrator?! And if all this is true and Damon is the main character why aren’t you actually making him likeable?

Yeah, I don’t get what the fuck happened to this show either. If you’re gonna make a show revolved around a character that has done nothing but terrible things, why the fuck do they constantly make him worse? It’s ridiculous!

Oh and if Nina is coming back… I would give anything to see Ian’s reaction, after all the shit he’s pulled…

Oh, right. Plec happened..

Seriously though, when did Damon and Ian become the bloody lead of the show?! Why did season 7 revolve around him?

Around the time when they realized their ratings were tanking and needed to capitalized on Damon’s “hotness” for views. Of course they didn’t really realize that alienating their audience with so much Damon and Delena was what was causing the drop in ratings.

Why did Nina get reduced to a love interest in her own final season?

That actually happens around season 3 when the most interesting thing that sustains her in the plot expires–doppelganger–and all she’s left with is love triangle. Elena was always best as a supporting character because there’s not really much to her beyond self-insert. It’s fine for a while but the more and more passive she is the less and less relatable she becomes which is why self-inserts have an expiration date. I actually found season 6 to be one of her better seasons with her in the background due to this because one of the main crutches of the show was that there are so many other interesting things happening, but they’re all in the background and you’re stuck with Elena until you can get to it (this was also true of the books).

Why are they doing season one flashbacks from Damon’s point of view almost as if to make it about Delena and disrespect Stelena and Kevin even more when Stefan is the narrator?!

Because, as pointed out, Julie Plec. Season 5 is where I believe they should have cut their losses with Damon and Delena, this is the point in which we as an audience realized he and that relationship were going absolutely nowhere development wise. People obviously realized it before then but season 5 is where it reached it’s peak and not even the casual viewer (which is the majority of the people who watch the show) could ignore how awful it was, but Julie Plec was really adamant about backing that horse. I suspect it’s because they’re the only part of the fandom that gave her any validation as a writer because as you pointed out with the disrespect of Stelena, she’s insecure–especially when it comes to Delena. There’s a reason why when Damon does something remotely likable Elena is unnecessarily brought in to the situation even though she’s in a box. That Bamon “I love you” was a perfectly good moment and because of Kat and Ian’s chemistry it trumps any Delena moment in feels which is why again she’s unnecessarily brought in. Hell that’s pretty much what happens from season 3-8, when Elena is forgotten about to long she’s brought into lots and storylines (usually Bonnie’s) to remind us she’s still there and it’s because that’s how flimsily her sustainability in the plot is. While I do think there is some cause for this insecurity, forcing it just makes it way worse.

And if all this is true and Damon is the main character why aren’t you actually making him likeable?

You can’t fix a problem you don’t see. Plec has made it abundantly clear that she thinks Damon is perfect in her eyes. She denies him raping Caroline or Andy, something the actor even admits Damon did, because in whatever fucked up part of her brain she can’t see it. She can’t see anything, she writes the show from a fangirl perspective, and due to such things suck. Things are glossed over, canon is forgotten because it’s just written under the statement of “this is what I want to happen” with little regard to continuity.

So why does the show suck? Julie Plec, and I’d like to give credit to other writers for the shittiness they’ve written as well, but she’s the show runner, everything runs by her. If she didn’t want it it wouldn’t have been on the show. 

It’s 4 o’clock in the morning and I need to go to sleep since I have work tomorrow but my brain is working overtime.

So I just had a thought on how Katherine “saved” Emily’s life.

So in the 1864 flashbacks with Emily, aside from the fact that she’s Katherine’s handmaiden we learn that Emily owed a debt to Katherine saved her life, but we’re never told how and I honestly always wondered what Katherine of all people could save Emily, one of the strongest witches ever. Even more inexplicable, despite this Emily still helps the counsel against Katherine’s wishes so she wasn’t as grateful as perceived.

Given the location, time period, and the color of her skin she more than likely was a slave (even though the show literally pretends they don’t exist). Maybe Katherine “saved” her from her owner and leveraged that to get Emily to work with her. Also I imagine Katherine leveraging that working for her is better than where she was before, but Emily sees through it. She realized that she only went from one master to a different which is why she helps the counsel, because she wants to get rid of Katherine.

Anyway if I ever write that Damon x Emily fic I’m definitely using that.

ricks2ccurls:

As a bisexual black woman, I find it odd seeing straight, white women in fandom headcanon black women as a wlw or, if she’s canon bisexual, focus so intently on their attraction to women. There’s not necessarily an issue with that in itself but I’ve seen a lot of “keep her as far away as possible from the white male fav” reasoning disguised as shipping. It’s happened with canon straight characters (Michonne, Bonnie Bennett) as well as canon bi characters (Valkyrie, Toni Topaz). And in the case of black bi women, there’s the addition of fandom implicitly or explicitly erasing their bisexuality. I don’t think shipping or fandom should be gatekept but it’s worth questioning the intent sometimes. In this case, are you using sexuality to remove a perceived undesirable/undeserving threat or because you see black women as too masculine/dominant/aggressive to be with a man?

This usually gets me the most with Bonnie when some people ship her with Elena. Her Magic negro/slave role which she mostly plays toward Elena is interpreted instead as unrequited love which I find worse because in either case it’s not reciprocal. It’s always Bonnie willing die for her and Elena saying she is but never following through. Their relationship in the context of friendship is bad enough, no need to add romance to that and fuck it up farther especially since it gives them a convenient excuse to ignore the anti-blackness of the whole situation.

Do you know what makes Bonnies pain and loss all the more worse is that it always seems to the fault of the mystic falls gang. Damon and Stefan are the reason her grams died and her mom became a vampire and enzo was killed by Stefan. Elena and Caroline’s loss were either the fault of no one or a the current villain. Bonnies pain and suffering is inflicted on her by her so called friends but she’s never allowed to ever hold them accountable for any of it and is made forgive them

nys30:

irresistible-revolution:

the word you’re looking for is slavery. Bonnie’s story on TVD is a modern day slave narrative set in a plantation town with plantation power dynamics. i dont usually make transparent analogies of this nature but the show has spent 8 seasons insisting on its own nature so all i’m doing is naming that. 

BOOM! I’ve always thought it was strange as he’ll that NOBODY has noticed that, or commented on it. Everyone on the show has lost people, but they died by either enemies, or genuine accidents (Elena’s parents)

But Bonnie? You can trace ALL her losses back to her circle of friends and their actions. I don’t understand why she’s still there! I mean I know why, (show reasons) but the closest anyone has come to verbalizing it was Caroline to Elena after Abby was turned.

And come to think of it, has Bonnie ever asked for an apology? No sane, self respecting person would hang around after that.

“…so technically you’re a walking reminder of the horrible things that happened to me.”

I honestly will never forgive Elena or Plec for that line. I wonder what seeing her face does to Bonnie since everything she’s lost always comes back to Elena.

And what makes that line even worse is that Elena doesn’t even say because something Bonnie did got Jeremy killed, no she says it because Bonnie couldn’t bring Jeremy back. They were all so entitled to Bonnie’s help back then that when she fails a difficult task it’s all her fault for their pain and suffering. She didn’t have to do shit to begin with and no one can even be the slightest bit grateful that she even tried.

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scorpio-karma:

Me at Esther Mikaelson being called the Original witch:

I think this was the point when I realized “wow, this show has really lazy stupid writing”.

Ikr, and this is season 3 when the writer was “good”. She couldn’t have even been called the Original Witch in the episode she’s introduced because the spell that makes her famous isn’t even her spell–it’s one she got from another witch who got it from her ancestors. I get that they wanted to give her a fancy title as the mother of the originals and creator of vampires, but maybe a name that’s accurate and doesn’t over estimate her.

I mean Qetsiyah, creator of the immortality spell (because Silas didn’t do shit but take credit for her work) and the other side, doesn’t even have a title like that and she’s miles ahead of Esther in power and a lot closer to being called the Original Witch (even though it’s still not true because witches are born not created).

Like I said in the tags she’s not the Original Witch, she’s just white.

EXACTLY!! 

How freaking stupid was that?! She’s the “Original Witch” and it wasn’t even her spell and she wasn’t the one who cast it! (there was another witch with her, right?)

Qetsiyah was awesome. She deserves that title.

I got a name for Esther – The 1000 year old White Witch who took credit for other, much more epic witches’ work. 

^^^ this.

And I always hated what her introduction pretty much told us as the audience. Again, what I said in the tags, she’s just the first white witch to be introduced. Up until that point all witches had been black, and all those witches were servants of some kind usual vampires. It was something noted and not appreciated in the slightest. Then the first witch with agency, the first witch not to be serving , but has people serving her is a 1000 white woman who’s most famous spell is not one she created but stole from a black witch who was serving her.

Up until her introduction the writers could have at least claimed ignorance, but that was just so blatantly racist that I’m actually surprised that that wasn’t what Plec got called out for but instead the Kennett controversy.

Yep. That’s it. Honestly, I’m shocked that the treatment of witches – up until that point and past that point – wasn’t the “…hold on, we need to address this/fix this” moment because, like you said, all the witches were black and were servants to the vampires (pretty poorly treated by them, too)… and it kept going.. and going.. the racism is blatant, writers. 

(your tags are always epic, btw)

And that’s the thing, they did improve the treatment of witches, but only the white witches, so they could think the did a job well done. I mean think about it, Esther, Liv, Davina, Jo, Kai, the Gemini coven, the heretics (all except for one who happened to be black and mute and even the Asian one to a degree), all had an amount of agency that no black witch has ever had, and way more than Bonnie ever got in her entire 8 seasons on the show. Seriously ignorance cannot account for this because if just how blatant it is.

You would think they would want to improve that but as situations like this and many like it prove they’re perfectly content with their racism and will go out of their way to stay as racist as possible.