scorpio-karma:

I ship Qetsiyah and Silas together. They would make such a beautiful, beautiful disaster.

Can you imagine how hot the hate sex would be. They’d be like my OG Bonkai where there’s a constant back and forth with hurting each other. Of course I would leave Amara out if it because she really serves no purpose, Silas is evil enough on his own and Qetsiyah could match him in every way but more because let’s be honest, she always had more power.

Follow up: I just realized just how similar They are to Bonkai. Two people stuck in a different dimension where she’s his key out. She’s adamant about not letting him out and willing to do everything to do so.

Of course they differ in a lot of ways, but I realized that they were essentially Bonkai before we ever knew to even think about such a dynamic.

I ship Qetsiyah and Silas together. They would make such a beautiful, beautiful disaster.

Can you imagine how hot the hate sex would be. They’d be like my OG Bonkai where there’s a constant back and forth with hurting each other. Of course I would leave Amara out if it because she really serves no purpose, Silas is evil enough on his own and Qetsiyah could match him in every way but more because let’s be honest, she always had more power.

laufire:

I feel like Qetsiyah/Silas was a goldmine wasted on Amara and Delena drama. Like there was so much entertainment there such as the fact Bonnie is a descendent of Qetsiyah meaning she had to have kids at some point. Does that mean there’s some random father or is it Solar and that’s why the Bennett line is so powerful. Having Qetsiyah actually perform some big magic that trumps Silas cuz we know she’s more powerful. Like honestly the drama of it all.

Just wasted on doppelganger shit

I feel u, and I do wish there could’ve been more focused on just them (Amara was especially meh, though I did like her scene in the cell with Qetsiyah), but I was actually enjoying myself so much with the Qetsiyah vs. Silas hijinks that the original trio drama even stopped bothering me at some point xD

(Sidenote: to this day I’m still surprised every time I remember Qetsiyah what’s only in four episodes o.0. Like, it doesn’t seem true? The actress was just so fucking charismatic)

I do mourn the lost potential the chosen focus for the narrative had on Bonnie’s storyline. Like, we had ONE scene between her and Qetsiyah, wtf. Maybe if the storyline had happened after the boost Bonkai gave her in s6 it’d been different, but I guess in s5 the triangle still had its claws in the show ¬¬ 

Also, I hadn’t really thought about it before, but from now on I’m gonna headcanon that Bonnie descended from Silas too, ‘cause I can LOL.

What I love about the storyline is that Qetsiyah won and Silas was trapped with her in the afterlife xD I have no idea how that could work in Hell/post finale (tho I wanna write something about it) but I like to think she was still victorious somehow.

That’s funny I don’t remember much about season 5 either because I didn’t watch all of it (I got about halfway through before giving up and only came back for season 6) and Qetsiyah are the only thing I remember in detail. And kinda the same thing with season 4, the only things I remember are Bonnie and Shane because those were the only thing that were interesting those seasons.

Amara’s scene in the cell, I don’t know if I like it or dislike it, but I do know in one line that told me everything I needed to know about her character. “My only crime was falling in love.” The level of self-centered ignorance that could only come from an Elena look-alike because aiding Silas in manipulating Qetsiyah and then taking the immortality elixr are all things falling in love didn’t need to entail. Maybe running away together, but not all that. And after 20 centuries she still couldn’t get that. But in all honesty I wish her punishment for Silas would have been more extensive because he was at most to blame.

But I did like that Qetsiyah won in the end just wished she had more goals because there was so much more that could have been done with her.

Could you post a meta about Qetsiyah and how the showrunner failed this character ?

hellsbellschime:

Well I would think that’s absolutely, uncomfortably obvious. Because the writers failed with Qetsiyah in the same way they have failed with literally every significant female character on either show in the past 4+ years. Obviously Qetsiyah was not a significant presence in terms of airtime, but in terms of the actual show’s mythology she is one of the most important and influential characters in the entire series. In fact, her actions are ultimately the driving force behind everything that ever happens in the show. And yet, her treatment is embarrassingly (and unsurprisingly) offensive. 

Qetsiyah is meant to literally be the most powerful witch in the history of everything. She is the source of immortality and the true progenitor of all vampires. And what is it that drives her to harness this ultimate power that most witches could never even conceive of let alone actually accomplish? An obsession with a dude. An obsession with an exceptionally unexceptional dude that doesn’t even like her back. A dude who is literally manipulating her into using unimaginable power to allow him to spend an eternity with someone else. The most extraordinary woman in the world’s desire for some guy is literally the foundation of every supernatural event that we have ever seen in the entire show. Again, not a surprise. 

What’s even more hilarious about this is that the foundation of vampirism isn’t just the obsessive romantic love of a very powerful woman, but that once Silas and Amara betray Qetsiyah the entire story transitions from the saga of a woman being used to the most extreme case of “hell hath no fury like a woman scorned” that the writers could ever possibly come up with. The super-powerful Qetsiyah doesn’t just sit around and let herself get played, she creates the Other Side with the intention of trapping Silas and keeping him away from Amara at any cost, because if she can’t have him then no one can. Revenge for being jilted is the only thing she is willing to dedicate her life and death to. 

Now seriously, just think about this for one goddamn second. We’re talking about a witch so powerful it is beyond imagination. Qetsiyah can’t just make someone immortal, she is LITERALLY powerful enough to control every. Single. Supernatural. Being. That. Has. EVER. LIVED. She fucking single-handedly created HER OWN DIMENSION. She had enough power to rule the freaking world if she decided. And we’re supposed to believe that a woman that powerful would have no desires or aspirations beyond loving a man, or forcing said man to stay with her at any cost even if he didn’t love her? 

That is a freaking embarrassment to even say out loud, and yet it is not surprising in the slightest, because this is the absolute definition of everything that TVD has become. Women will fight, kill, rip themselves apart, and even die just for the chance that some fuckboy might deem them worthy. And if they won’t deem them worthy, then what is life even worth living for? It really should be expected at this point, but when you really think about the fact that the most powerful person who ever existed STILL has no value for themselves or within the narrative without a male character to revolve around is insane. Qetsiyah should have been the kind of character that even human history books wrote about, like Cleopatra, or Alexander the Great, or Genghis Khan. She should have used her power to conquer the world. She obviously could have. But the only thing she ever cared about was conquering one man, and she couldn’t even do that. It’s absolutely absurd. 

Did you find what Qetsiyah did to Silas and Amara completely justified? To me it was karmic justice.

fuckitimfangirling:

sc0rpi0karma:

fuckitimfangirling:

I actually despise cheaters, especially when there’s no valid reason to cheat like Silara (TW: abusive SO is like my one exception). So yes, I did. Even when I write about cheating in my one fanfic with adultery, I low-key hate on the characters’ actions, even tho I’m the one writing it. Tessa’s reaction was totally fine to me, which idk, might make me seem a bit nuts, but idc. Fuck cheaters. Fuck Silara. That kind of betrayal messes people up and really hurts them and gives them trust issues.

To me the act of cheating isn’t the deplorable action, it’s the betrayal such as with Sias and Amara. I find I’m a lot more tolerable to it when the offending party(s) own up to it and show actual remorse and take actual responsibility. None of that “sorry, but we couldn’t help ourselves” or “we’re in love!” crap where they think that love can be used as an umbrella to be a terrible person. That’s why I get so annoyed when Amara says that her only crime was falling in love because falling for Silas is actually quite low on her list of offenses. I mean I’m pretty sure she was in on the whole “let’s manipulate Qetsiyah into making the immortality elixir and steal it from her and run off together leaving her heart broken” plan so she obviously wasn’t a good person period for participating in that and “falling in love” was clearly NOT HER ONLY CRIME. Love isn’t the end all be all of excuses to be terrible to someone. Seriously, why were we supposed to buy that? And why was this written to be an epic love story? It was two shitty people do a shitty thing to someone and pay the price of being shitty, the end. There are better ways to incorporate cheating in a love story and this was not even close to being good. But honestly it was all pretty par for the course with Plec’s warped notion of love and romance (at least when it comes to writing), the most surprising part to me is how many people bought into it however this aired at a time when she had a little bit of credibility, so why not?

Lol I’m like…pathological about adultery almost, I accept very few reasons for doing it and idfc if ppl own it (opposite of my usual mindset). I hate, hate, hate the absolute disloyalty of it, which is one of the reasons why Silara was an immediate no thx for me. Not to mention that it was a ship based on misogynoir – doing the WOC so damn wrong, scorning her for Becky Basic (implying that woc aren’t as worthy of love as ww), tricking her, insinuating that she was the crazy one for reacting like she did (angry black woman trope – I know the actress that played Tessa wasn’t black, but still), etc. Plus the reasons you listed, Silas and Amara were just crap ppl. Fuck that shit. There are a billion other ways to write Silara as an epic LS w/o shitting on WOC and still give Tessa a good reason doing what she did (i.e. she and Silas were enemies and her actions were to avenge the lover/loved ones he took from her). Not even Dobsley chemistry made Silara worth it for me, Plec could keep that mess.

The thing that always got me about Qetsiyah’s treatment is that even after you get her side if the story she’s still treated as though she was in the wrong, but even worse is they kept depowering her. Like she went from bad ass bitch you should never piss off to pathetic girl with a grudge still pining after Silas — I wanted to see her kick his ass and wipe that cocky self righteous grin off his face. They even depowered her physically because honestly how does a woman who created true immortality, the cure, the otherside have trouble beating Silas or anyone for that matter, in a magic fight. Granted that would make her OP AF but she was only in five episodes and none of her anger/revenge was directed at the MFG, so why would it matter? She should have been able to display waay more power than she did on the show. That’s honestly what pissed me off the most is that what power she was given was easily stripped away and treated as though it was trivial — as though her feelings were trivial as well which really tells you a lot about Plec and her views on WOC (and it’s not coincidental that Bonnie has the same exact treatment and Qetsiyah’s her distant ancestor)

Also I found it slightly insulting that no one thought to ask her, the creator, how the cure worked, like seriously, why are you getting that information from Nadia when you could literally go right to the source.